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wackywaco76710
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Post subject: Idle  Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 9:13 pm |
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I have a 05 ram with hemi with s/c. when it idles programmed or not it has an erratic idle. when you come to a stop it will try to idle at 550 or so then it will fall to 450 then bump itself up to 650 up and down up and down for about 2 seconds till it finds its 500-550 idle. does anyone else have this problem? i have no codes. not sure might cause this any ideas?
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mike.higham
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 11:05 pm |
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I have an LX with the HEMI. It seems to be something you live with having the SC tune. Go to stock, smooth as glass.
The trucks seem to have it worse, the idle is really low. The car guys have been told there is no fix and totally ignored with dozens of tickets unanswered.
Mike
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wackywaco76710
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Post subject: idle. Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 1:50 pm |
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well i think it would run alot better if we could set our idle to whatever we please. that way the engine wouldnt try to idle to such a low ponit where the engine almost dies then hunts to finally level off to that low idle. i dont think sc offers a low idle limit but wouldnt that be great.
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bee2865
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:00 pm |
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A few of us have been asking for idle increase for almost a year now
 
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wackywaco76710
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Post subject: idle Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:35 pm |
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Well whats the deal. another quesiton i have is the custom tunes. first when are we going to see them? second they are going to be upgrade sepefic and how much are they? are they going to be free or do we have to contact them and tell them what we have and they send us the custom tune? or are they only going to try to sell this tuner to more poeple and forget about the people who already have it?
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kevnic
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Post subject: Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:51 pm |
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Ditto.... When are the custom tunes coming out? Also is there anyway you can make a update for the people who don't want the 2400 rpm 1-2 shift all the time?
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Clayton120702
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:20 am |
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Im having the same problem with idle. Mine does not like to idle when the A/C is on. When its off it idles OK but when the A/c is on it idles like crap. ALSo Can anyone give some advise on getting a cam? Im have no idea what to get or if i should even consider it. I keep hearing all of the bad stories about what people are going through after they get one....Some One PLEAE HELP...
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mike.higham
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:34 am |
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Clayton120702 wrote: Im having the same problem with idle. Mine does not like to idle when the A/C is on. When its off it idles OK but when the A/c is on it idles like crap. ALSo Can anyone give some advise on getting a cam? Im have no idea what to get or if i should even consider it. I keep hearing all of the bad stories about what people are going through after they get one....Some One PLEAE HELP...
I can't help you with the cam, but can say it has the potential to make things worse.
You can submit a ticket to SC for the idle, but be prepared, it will all but be ignored (I have 3 in since December with NO reply!). Make sure your tuner is up-to-date because thats the first thing they will ask.
Mike
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wackywaco76710
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Post subject: idle. Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:10 pm |
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well the problem is the fact the idle is set too low and the ecm trys to compensate so it had a erratic idle. also could be an effect of drive by wire?
i dont understand why they can spend 3 to 4 hours on an update to up the idle? is it that hard? i work on cat engines which still use obd I and its a matter of just filling in a blank with an ilde value. seems to be we should be able to do alot more since this is obdII based but thats just my theroy.
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bee2865
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:28 pm |
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Gotta be DODGE telling them not to raise the idle.. 
Enough of us have complained but we never get a soild answer as to why! 
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mike.higham
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:31 pm |
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bee2865 wrote: Gotta be DODGE telling them not to raise the idle.. Enough of us have complained but we never get a soild answer as to why! They have already messed with fuel, timing and the transmission - why would Dodge care about the idle at this point. Adjusting the idle 100 rpm's is not hard at all.
Cause they have your money. There is no pressure to give you anything more than what they already have.
Mike
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bee2865
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:33 pm |
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wackywaco76710
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Post subject: idle. Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:52 pm |
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well i plan on getting a cam and i'm almost positive that the idle would need to be raised about 100 rpm to handle a cam upgrade. its actually pretty lame this tuner doesnt really support upgrading into a cam which is a very basic upgrade. i'm sure those chevy guys have suport for cam upgrades.
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Clayton120702
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Post subject: Cam Upgrade Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:19 pm |
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Can anyone give me some advise on a cam upgrade, it its worth it, or is it just way to much to have to deal with? Is there any cam out there that will give you good Hp and not screw your truck up? There was a truck i saw on a race web site and it sounded awesome! "And it idled OK" Im up for anyone that can give me some advise, also what type of extra power are we talking about 30hp, 40hp, .....? Thanks for any help!
Ryan
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Dodge Calibrations team
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:36 am |
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mike.higham wrote: bee2865 wrote: Gotta be DODGE telling them not to raise the idle.. Enough of us have complained but we never get a soild answer as to why! They have already messed with fuel, timing and the transmission - why would Dodge care about the idle at this point. Adjusting the idle 100 rpm's is not hard at all. Cause they have your money. There is no pressure to give you anything more than what they already have. Mike The Peanut gallery {consisting of mikehigham}.
The idle is not a simple one byte change. There are tables, strings and a couple of words associated to "raise" the idle properly. Not an easy task for the engineer to "add" this in as an option for now.
Adding cams is not too bad as far as tuning go. The bigger the cam the more time needed to tune it. Setting the spark curves, fuel ratio's and fuel trims, the annoying P0300 dtc code, deleting MDS {if equipped}, and raising idle to name a few.
Now, where did my duct tape go? 
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